One is that parts quality was not as good simply from a technological point. Enjoy. Those who own Magnum Dynalab tuners really get how good FM can be in those markets. I thought they were great looking as well. Next, use either the receiver’s remote control or its front panel control buttons to select the Direct Multi Channel In Playback mode. If you can get a line-out, you could try using this thing as a preamp. That would allow you to use the tuner section and avoid listening to the noisey preamp All you’d have to do is connect the preamp output of the old receiver (provided it has one) to an AUX input on your new receiver… To use it as a power amp, connect cables from the Marantz pre-pro’s amplifier outputs to the Pioneer receiver’s multichannel analog inputs. The tuners in most of these receivers are very good, how about the rest of the preamp parts? ). It is also the first stage of gain which means that it has the job of amplifying the signal without adding noise. I use a H/K AVR 330 receiver as a preamp, and I see no reason to buy a standalone preamp. It is true that loudspeakers and source components are very important as they determine the ultimate clarity but the largest bottleneck is always the preamplifier where everything is routed through. My preamp just stopped working in one channel, and I pulled my old NAD 30 watt receiver out and hooked it up as a pre-amp only. Then secondly, age has to contribute to this as the circuit cannot hold its specs indefinately and after thirty years there may be more than a couple of things amiss. You have to be careful and not pick up something that is really "dump bound", but... my wife found two automobiles that she gave to New Orleans hurricane victims who relocated to Atlanta. Step 1 Connect the white and red plugs on one end of the stereo cable to the left and right "Tape 1 IN" jacks on the stereo receiver. It is also the most often overlooked or underappreciated. Lastly, you really don't want to look at that old thing do you?!-Bill. You could take advantage of a cheap tuner by connecting the tape outputs of an old receiver into a modern hi-fi preamp or integrated amplifier. Next, use either the receiver’s remote control or its front panel control buttons to select As noted above, there's no snazzy magic involved in using a stereo receiver as a phone preamp -- the reason you can use a stereo receiver (most stereo receivers, anyway) as a phono preamp is because it has a phono preamp in it. If you have Direct TV you now have XM to listen to. I'd say I will prefer them to modern mid-fi receivers to listen to cd music.DVDs are a different story.I agree completely with Jim , when he says they will not give you the last bit of resolution, but depending on recording quality they might sound pretty good.It would be good to know the rest of the system before making additional comments. Using a vintage piece has several problems. Another alternative if budget can do it is buy a good preamp with a home theater pass This is the only situation where I'd run a receiver for a preamp. So more noise is a given. For me and surely not for many, it was the introduction of tubes into my system that , imo, really started to elevate it. The normal way would be to use a "preamp/processor" (pre/pro) to connect all of your components and do the processing (Dolby, DTS, etc.) This way you can use the stereo for music and run the receiver only for movies. but I wouldn't really consider going back to a receiver or integrated for my main system unless I suddenly had major space constraints, Windsor, Ontario, Canada (across the river from De, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. How well would some of the better receivers from the 1970s work as a front end to a power amplifier? The only difference is a receiver is a tuner, preamp and amp all in one, but as a preamp, it I think they are pretty much the same thing. The tuner sections may be pretty decent, at least usable depending upon how much FM you listen to these days. I'm in the same boat - I want to move to tubes however I do not want to dismantle my home theatre system - I'll likely have to find a decent AV receiver to use as a pre-amp so that I do not loose the 5.1 capabilities - I really only care about 2 channel audio - however I do not want to take away from my already existing 5.1 system - that may family enjoys. Depending on the kind of music you are going to listen to, they might perform extremely well, although most of them will require the loudness compensation to be listened to at low levels. Those who live in Chicago, NY, and Boston with excellent engineering at the local PBS FM stations know where I am going here. The day I hooked up a CJ tube preamp was the day I started seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. You could take advantage of a cheap tuner by connecting the tape outputs of an old receiver into a modern hi-fi preamp or integrated amplifier. Another alternative if budget can do it is buy a good preamp with a home theater pass through for listening to music. Discussion in 'General Audio Discussion' started by steelglam, Apr 4, 2011. I'll see if it is servicable and if so give it to an older couple in our church who might still listen to FM. An old stereo receiver can be used as a preamp with standard stereo cables and two tape-deck connections. You might sign up for yourself and you can select the local counties near where you live and people offer stuff for free if you just pick it up. What would be an iteresting test for you is how some of the better FM stations in your market sound compared to XM or Sirius radio home units. Any subsequent amplification such as through a power amplifier will not only amplify the signal but the signal plus noise introduced by the preamplifier itself. It is important that you do not try to plug a preamp into a regular input because it will force the AV receiver’s preamp to deal with more voltage than it is designed to handle. Re: Using vintage receiver for a preamp? It may not be very good, of course. If you need to use a preamp but your AV receiver doesn’t let you bypass it, that doesn’t necessarily mean you should upgrade to a pricier AV receiver. - Yuck. I'll need to find a decent AV receiver that will make for a good pre-amp - my current AV receiver doesn't have the preouts for a ext tube amp. Your junk may be someone elses treasures. ps I just picked up an older Kenwood seperates tuner off of www.free cycle.org for free. I do not kid myself about my 70's Hafler gear I use to drive my computer music now. I have it hooked up to a Pioneer Elite DV79i via the firewire cable. I'm interested in this thread to hear what other have done. If you discover that it's had to turn up the output too far (introducing clipping), you probably can turn up the volume some more on the secondary receiver (the … and then send that final signal out to an outboard amplifier via the "pre-out" jacks (usually RCA for unbalanced or XLR for balanced connections). It is still nice sounding, but I would not consider it state of the Art in High end land. I have a Pioneer Elite TSX59i that I use as a pre-amp and also use the available amp channels for center and rears. That would allow you to use the tuner section and avoid listening to the noisey preamp section. It does not mean it is not a good music maker, but it is much better than any table radio we know of. To use it as a power amp, connect cables from the Marantz pre-pro’s amplifier outputs to the Pioneer receiver’s multichannel analog inputs. You can get receivers with pre outs to run a better power amp for your mains. I'm thinking of Yamaha, Marantz, Sansui or Kenwood receivers with the preamp out, main in jacks. The preamp is the most important link in a system as everything most go through it. I think rselby has it right, if what you want to do is add an extra 2 channels of amplification in a roundabout way. You can get receivers with pre outs to run a better power amp for your mains. this gives me a relatively jitter free digitial interface and allows the receiver to perform all SACD and DVD-A decoding within the receiver. I still wish I had some of the old Marantz gyro-tuning receivers I have gone through way back. A Yes, you can in theory use your old receiver as a phono preamp for playing records through your new, phono-preamp-less receiver. This is the only situation where I'd run a receiver for a preamp.